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nerf de cri

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version analogue de [link]

Kodak Masterview - 90mm angulon - Ilford Hp5
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:iconjakedj11:
Jakedj11 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
what is it and what has it to do with NERF?
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:iconkrass62:
Krass62 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2009  Professional General Artist
Wonderful work!
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2009
Are you back ? :)

( btw thank you :ahoy: )
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:iconkrass62:
Krass62 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2009  Professional General Artist
I seldom happen here :)
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:iconarline:
Arline Featured By Owner May 22, 2009   Photographer
great series and wonderdul concept

:clap:
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 25, 2009
many thanks for your support :)
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:icon1978knobby:
1978knobby Featured By Owner May 20, 2009
i prefer this one.there is less visual noise and its clean
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 25, 2009
i do understand what you mean but may i ask a question :
would you say it to a painter that his painting was more clean before his work ? :)
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:iconmagicworld:
MagicWorld Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
superbe, mais fait pas ça avec un capteur :)
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 20, 2009
ah zut .... j'aurai bien aimé :rofl: ( mais çelui-ci c'est ce le scan du néga sans " modification, donc c'est bon :D )
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:icondaaram:
daaram Featured By Owner May 19, 2009  Professional Photographer
Très beau travail !
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 20, 2009
merci :)
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:iconviolene:
Violene Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
un vrai tableau ...violent dans un grand dé;pouillement finalement ...ça résonne ;-)
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:iconkamido-tu:
kamido-tu Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
Très belle image
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
j'espère que ce sera encore mieux à la fin du processus de destruction du négatif :D
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:iconkamido-tu:
kamido-tu Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
S'il n'en reste rien ça va être difficile :-) :-) :-)
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
je procède par étape, je viens de mettre la phase 2, mais elles se ressemblent encore trop ...
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:iconbywaiting:
ByWaiting Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2009
...je ressens parfaitement votre composition,
j'ai ce même sentiment, dans le ventre,...
je peux enfin voir ce que j'ai à l'intérieur.
pleasure &...
merci.Ph.
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
ben je suis content si j'ai pu aider :)
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:iconbywaiting:
ByWaiting Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
pour les maux,
il y des images qui parlent bien plus que les mots...
c'est toujours bon de savoir à qui on a à faire...
... au plaisir.
Ph.
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azrael3000 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
Well there is not much to say to this photo. It leaves me stunning every time I see it and this happened quite a lot during the last days. It is perfect in every way I can think of and I never stop discovering new ways to look at it.

End of that very clever comment.
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
:blushes:

( i see a bunch of defaults in this picture, i mean that it doesn't look like what i attempted to do but everything i tryed to say is inside. but i am happy to think and to see all the defaults inside because it helps me to think about what i'll do in the future: i 've got a lot of projects with the negative but actually i don't know which way i'll choose .... time will tell me :) )

it's allways a question of time .
and it makes me come at your latest journal entry so what ( second :blushes: : it's really very strange, surprising to be featured in these links :hug: in a good way i mean, but i don't deserve so many ... i've got no words )

i agree with you, and i am more OK with what you say because these days i submitted few works with textures and i made them in a "wannabe spirit" :D ( iwant to use them as CD cover for compils i found on the web of rare tracks from the 20' to the 70's ) and i don't think they have some interests but it helped to learn more about what i want to do in the future.

the most often i use old cameras from the 50's not in a spirit of " toy camera " ( i do not think they are ) but because i've got the feeling they've got their own "soul" and then start a kind of discussion between them and i . it creates a very different way to see ( and to show ) the subject i want to photography

this discussion ( between you & i ) could be very interesting and i feel so sad and i 've got a lot of shame because my english is so bad, things are so difficult to explain, i don't know how to do

i've got a problem with modern tools ( i know them , my customers have a lot of Blad digital cameras ) they are too much perfect, there is no defaults, there 's a kind of neutrality : a kind of international way to do the same sort of picture and at the end you do not know who made the picture because all the details look always the same and like for the wannabes it looks like a plate in a microwave oven :D


thanks for your time
end of this long reply ( unfortunatly not clever as yours :D )

( i forgot to say that for this picture you like so much i was inspired by Munch " Skrik - the scream " and it was strange to think painting than photography ( as you can see i do not know something about painting :D )
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azrael3000 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
Like everything art is also a learning process. The fact that you got in that picture everything what you intended alone prooves that you are on a good way. How much would I wish to say the same. But instead all I see is emptiness and some sparks, ideas glowing in all directions. As trivial as the normal message: 'go out and shoot' sounds there is quite a lot too it. It's just so horribly misinterpreted by the masses. I'm not sure whether I realise that this is a never ending project ending at the date that will be engraved in your grave. There will not be a final shot, the way one goes will be the end result.

I choose my features not from fast decision, I usually watch the image for a few days and then decide. Take for example: [link] a very nice shot but it just seems like an accident when one sees the rest of his gallery. But I also think that this dedication sets me apart from most of the guys here. The internet makes it easy to be fast but that's not always the best thing. And I think especially not when it comes to art. So you can be sure that in my eyes you deserve that feature :)

Anyways going on to the next paragraph and your textured images. I admit that I don't like them as much as your other work. But that doesn't matter since from what I know of you, you are experimenting. And why shouldn't you do this? Experimenting is part of that way we all want to go, whatever route we choose. Maybe it would've been your thing, maybe you would've found a way to approach these things in a new and 'revolutionary' way. One never knows, trying is the only way to figure that out. And as you said, it helped you to learn new things.

Also talking about those old cameras I was not so much speaking of people like you. More those 350D (or whatever) photographers that buy a holga and then scan the neg and think because of that fancy look they created something extraordinary. But how wrong they are. They don't understand what a Holga is about, or be it any other type of camera. If you have a film camera you need to invest some time to understand film, wet darkrooms and all that stuff. But these fools don't even try that but want to have a part of the cake. That's what is wrong in my mind.

I agree that this discussion is very nice and I hope that we can continue it for a while. Also I want to thank you for your long response. And maybe our ways cross at some stage :)

The best example for such professionals is probably Rankin and his TV show (see [link] view at: [link]) I've never seen such a huge amount of trash cumulated. When I looked at this movie I was short before getting sick by this dude. That's one of the most infulential photographers today? WOW. Nothing against digital photography. It definately is a way to go but I tried it and it's not mine, period.

And don't worry about your english, it's just fine. I'm not native speaker so I'll just ask if there's something I don't understand. Like your last paragraph. I understand that you were inspired by the Scream but I didn't get the last part of the sentence. Would be great if you could explain this to me.

So good night for now.
Arno
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2009
Hi Arno

:) i am sure we are talking about the same thing same if our words are different , on many points i agree with you

internet allows to do things very quickly, in a very short time and it's why i do so often many uploads and many re-uploads, because i didn't work enough my pictures before i submit them on da ( i mean my still- lifes ) but these different submissions helped me a lot : it's like that the series " noir presque transparent " borned : throught out the several versions i made of some of these pictures, searching a good way to work them to get something good , i didn't notice that the best way to see them is to do nothing of them and to let them in this dark mood

the other thing is that a good picture doesn't stay a good picture a long time on a place like DA or Flick-R or other websites where we can share pictures ... they are so many pictures ( good or bad ) that they are the most often forgot, out of memories few hours ago after we saw them :(

and too many pictures look like the same , not only Holga, but also landscapes with long exposure, macro shots ( aren't we able to do something else than drops with a macro lens :D ), Lens baby, still-life ( how many pears ? ( i made so many i don't know how many i made :rofl: )

these websites can be very inspiring but they are also a jail for the imagination and creativity :( we can forgot so easilly who we are and where we want to go but it's also very helpful, inspiring if we want : i discovered a bunch of teenagers, students who are very talented, inspired and who are able to develop their own world in their own way to do, breaking the rules of what we learn in a school

my life would be very different if when i was younger i could go and show my works in such a place ... nobody in my family or friends understood my pictures, my attempts and quickly because anybody wanted to see my works i stopped photography for many years, all my cameras in a box and that's all :D

an other long reply ... :D i hope i was not so boring ...

:wave: seb
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:iconazrael3000:
azrael3000 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2009
So Seb, it's time to get back to you. My time currently is very limited and I might not be answering your reply on this post for a week since I will be travelling.

Since I'm doing more and more printing again I learn to appreciate the non digital world even more. A picture in the computer will never give me the joy of seeing it under different lightsources. How the tones behave under sunlight or whatever. And if I'm standing in the darkroom for 4 hours for a print I know I have done something. I didn't sit in front of Photoshop, chatted with friends meanwhile and probably watched different websites during the process. No I have concentrated on that one thing and for me personally my heart is much more attached to these kind of achievements. I don't know if it's just some kind of stupid nostalgia but it feels good for me.

Also I tend to be much more critical and precise when working manually. And I also don't have to worry so much about technical problems, I am more of the problem but I'm at the beginning of this journey. So this is just ok.

Honestly I don't want to know how I would shoot with a digital. I'm shooting 35 mil now and this already gives me hundreds of pictures. How will I ever be able to print them, or at least have a serious look at each of them. I'm pretty convinced at the moment that I will at some stage end up with a large format shooting shot by shot. Like a good wine a good photograph will need time to come to existence.

I agree with you to a certain extend that these websites are not so much a place to see new exciting things happening. Of course there are exceptions but they are so scarce that they are very hard to detect. And in the end how much is this digital stuff in real world value? Hardly anything at all. But it is ok if one sees it from the right point of view I guess. It happens that you find these special people and once you're connected this is just the first step which should cumulate in a meeting at some café. And I can't understand why people try to find inspiration online. They tend to forget that there is a world around their screen which provides us with everything we've ever longed for.

Just a thought that popped through my head. Wouldn't it be great to have an art collective that is spread all over the world but sends it's work to each member who then tries to organise exhibitions. Okay addmitedly I'm far away from the stage where I would be ok to show my work to a gallery but for the future ;)

Take care man,

Arno
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grevys Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
love it - made me stop and really look - something pretty rare!
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
thank you so much !!!! :)
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d3b-ph Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
vraiment j'adore ces bouquets...

:flowerpot:
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
:) merci
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mixdown Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009   Photographer
[link] Featured.
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TotoRino Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
wow putain !

je ne dirais rien de plus
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
oui, si c'est pour être vulgaire sur ma page c'est bien la peine :giggle:

:hug:
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TotoRino Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
;)
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
:hug:
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:iconnatdia:
natdia Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
tu as quand même sacrément le chic pour ces tableaux de matières touchantes...
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
:D

merci :)
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CBJJBC Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009   Photographer
j'ai bien fait de venir sur DA moi ce soir; pour un deuxième volume, je persiste et je signe, c'est bien avec ces bouquets que j'aurais envie de travailler 8-)
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
j'y travaille, j'y travaille mais il n'y en a pas assez d'intéressantes mais je vis essayer de me concentrer sur cette série ( enfin tu me connais c'est pas facile :D )
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AngelsandDemon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
i love how abstract it is, great photo
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
thanks :) glad you like
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:iconkuru93:
kuru93 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009   Photographer
a nest for electric birds
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
do androids dream of electric birds ?
a good title for a novel isn't it :D
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:iconkuru93:
kuru93 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009   Photographer
do androids dream of electric birds in flight?

(got to love pkd)
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
they dream of metallic wings :)

i love him too.teenager I read so many of his novels and short novels that i can't remember all but some of his books are still haunting my mind ( Martian Time-Slip, A Scanner Darkly, The Man In The High Castle ... Flow my Tears, the Policeman Said (my favorite title, so poetic :D ) Confessions of a Crap Artist, Valis , Humpty Dumpty in Oakland and UBIK of course, my life is different sicne this book and it was the first one i read of him it was so crazy i was only 12 or 13 years old :D )

browsing all these titles i am thinking that i am ad/dick/ted :higgle:
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:iconkuru93:
kuru93 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009   Photographer
:D i was a member of the philip k dick society and have all the newsletters, back before the web existed.
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:iconedredon:
edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
:worship: :D

when i say you are my guru, it's true :D

:ahoy:
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:iconkuru93:
kuru93 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009   Photographer
:beer:
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JakezDaniel Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009   Photographer
Etrangement beau.
C'est un peu comme faire une boule de ses soucis et puis les poser sur la table... après elle peut crier cette boule de nerfs toute seule sur la table, elle ne dérange plus.
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edredon Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2009
parfois ça continue à démanger ... mais oui ça calme... c'est bien un peu le but de cette sétrie d'images: c'est curatif :D ( au moins pour moi :D )
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racheldesbois Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2009
Vraiment très chouette ! Spécial :star::star: aux deux petites taches en haut à droite qui viennent vraiment équilibrer ton image ;)
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